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Introduction
I was asking you earlier today if you want an In-Depth Guide on “How to Speed-Tune” and you voted with 95% Yes. Before we start I have to admit that I´m not 100% sure if this the correct explanation. I also did not come up with this explanation myself. I just did research some while ago, test it out myself and now I´m confident enough to say that this is a pretty accurate explanation. So I´ll give my best to explain it to the community in an easy to understand and useful way.
This guide will include 3 parts:
- Part 1: How Atk-Bar works
- Part 2: How to Speed-Tune your Arena Team
- Part 3: Speed-Tuning with Buffers
So, without any more explanation, let’s move on to details and describe each part step by step.
Part 1: How Atk-Bar works
Before we head to the Speed-Tuning you might want to know how the Atk-Bar mechanics work in general. These are the most important points you need to know:
1. A battle starts by everyone having 0 Atk-Bar
2. Every monster will tick up his Atk-Bar until one monster passes the 100% Atk-Bar mark.
Definition Tick: At every end of a turn a monster will fill up his Atk-Bar by 7% of his Overall Speed (Example: A 300 Speed Chloe will fill up her Atk-Bar by 300 * 0,07 = 21% every time a monsters turn ends). It´s also important to know that even if a monster procs multiple times violent, it still counts as 1 turn.
Definition Overall Speed: Base Speed + Speed from Runes + Base Speed * Spd Leader Bonus + Base Speed * Speed Tower Bonus
3. The monster X with the highest Atk-Bar moves (Please note that there is Atk-Bar Overflow, that means a monster will still fill up his Atk-Bar even when it´s above 100% – It´s not whoever reaches 100% Atk-Bar next will also move next)
4. After monster X ends his turn every monster ticks once again and the monster Y with the highest Atk-Bar moves
5. Speed Buff increases the Speed by 30%, not 33%
Easy Example: Our Team (Following Speed is Overall Speed)
- 300 Spd Purian -> Tick: 21% (300 * 0,07 = 21)
- 200 Spd Chloe -> Tick: 14%
- 150 Spd Lushen -> Tick 10,5%
- 100 Spd Slime -> Tick: 7%
Round 0: Battle starts
Purian 0% Atk-Bar
Chloe 0% Atk-Bar
Lushen 0% Atk-Bar
Slime 0% Atk-Bar
Round 1: After 1 Tick
Purian 21% Atk-Bar
Chloe 14% Atk-Bar
Lushen 10,5% Atk-Bar
Slime 7% Atk-Bar
Round 5: After 5 Ticks
Purian 105% Atk-Bar -> Purian moves since he passes the 100% Atk-Bar mark and Buffs 50% Atk-Bar
Chloe 70% Atk-Bar
Lushen 52,5% Atk-Bar
Slime 35% Atk-Bar
Round 6: After 6 Ticks and 50% Purian Buff
Purian 71% Atk-Bar
Chloe 134% Atk-Bar -> Chloe moves
Lushen 113% Atk-Bar
Slime 92% Atk-Bar
Round 7: After 7 Ticks
Purian 92% Atk-Bar
Chloe 14% Atk-Bar
Lushen 123,5% Atk-Bar -> Lushen moves
Slime 99% Atk-Bar
Round 8: After 8 Ticks
Purian 113% Atk-Bar -> Purian moves (Purian moved twice before Slime moved once)
Chloe 28% Atk-Bar
Lushen 10,5% Atk-Bar
Slime 106% Atk-Bar
As you can see the attack order will follow:
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As you can see you can even predict a whole arena fight if you know the speed of you and your opponent. But since we don´t know the exact speed of the enemy we can just do 2 things:
Option 1: We can assume that the enemies fastest unit isn´t above Speed X and calculate with that in our mind. (Example: We assume that the enemies fastest unit isn´t faster than 255 Spd and Speed-Tune with this in our mind) Disadvantage: You would have to avoid enemies who you think are faster than 255 Spd (Usually ADs with Bernard or/and Spd Leader)
Option 2: You don´t want to be that picky and have a great Speed-Tune against every enemy you can outspeed. Disadvantage:This results in having very fast Damage Dealers in exchange of giving up damage
Which of these 2 options you want to take advantage of depends only on you. But we will discuss both in Part 2 & 3.
FAQ:
- “Are you sure Atk-Bar buffing can overfill the Atk-Bar? I thought it was shown that it can only buff up to 100% and then tick from there.”
Please watch this video: Since Leo reduces everybody’ss Speed to his own, everybody starts with the same Atk-Bar as Leo. After Leo moves everybody gets the same amount of tick and is basically over 100% Atk-Bar. Now the monster with the highest pre-reduction Speed will move (in this case Megan). Megan pushes the Atk-Bar of Lushen/Zaiross by 20% so both move right after Megan. What does this show? If Atk-Bar buffing can just buff up to 100% Megan should be useless in this situation. Also the 2nd fastest monster should move after Megan, and not a 130 Spd Zaiross/115 Spd Lushen. I hope this proves, that it is indeed possible to buff someones Atk-Bar even if he has more than 100%. That´s also why Bernard + Megan comps work.
Part 2: How To Speed-Tune Your Arena Team
This is the important part if you choose option 1. Since I took this option myself I´ll show you how I Speed-tuned my Arena Offense. I was assuming the enemies fastest unit is max 255 Spd, intending to avoid every AD faster than 255 Spd. My AO:
- Shimitae: 106 Base Speed; 158 Spd with Runes; 198,28 Overall Speed (24% Speed Lead and 14% Tower)
- Purian: 97 Base Speed; 246,25 Spd with Runes; 283,11 Overall Speed
- Galleon: 108 Base Speed; 167 Spd with Runes; 208,04 Overall Speed
- Julie: 103 Base Speed; Since she moves last we need to Speed-Tune this monster; The exact Speed of Shimitae and Galleon are not important, just make them faster than your slowest Speed-Tuned monster. What I did is creating more than 1 Julie (103 Base Speed) and calculate the arena attack order:
- Julie A 140 Spd with Runes; 179,14 Overall Speed
- Julie B 150 Spd with Runes; 189,14 Overall Speed
- Julie C 155 Spd with Runes; 194,14 Overall Speed
Now we need an enemy: Let´s call her Chloe; 111 Base Speed; 255 Spd with Runes; 271,65 Overall Speed (I advise you to calculate the enemies fastest unit with a Lv.10 Tower Building!) If you use Swift Runes, please calculate yourself the correct amount and don´t just copy the Speed from the stats overview
I´ll write it down again for us to see it more clear: You can also use this Excel sheet
- Chloe (Enemy): 271,65 Spd -> Tick: 19,0155
- Shimitae: 198,28 Spd -> Tick: 13,8796
- Purian: 283,11 Spd -> Tick: 19,8177
- Galleon: 208,04 Spd -> Tick: 14,5628
- Julie A: 179,14 Spd -> Tick: 12,5398
- Julie B: 189,14 Spd -> Tick: 13,2398
- Julie C: 194,14 Spd -> Tick: 13,5898
Now let´s simulate the arena battle (I will skip the unimportant parts since I already showed you how it´s done):
Round 6: After 6 Ticks
Chloe 114,093
Purian 118,9062 -> Purian moves and buffs everyones Atk-Bar by 50%
Galleon 87,3768
Shimitae 83,2776
Julie A 75,2388
Julie B 79,4388
Julie C 81,5388
Round 7: After 7 Ticks and Purian Buff (From now on I will exclude the monsters who already moved)
Chloe 133,1085
Galleon: 151,9396 -> Galleon moves
Shimitae 147,1572
Julie A 137,7786
Julie B 142,6786
Julie C 145,1286
Round 8: After 8 Ticks
Chloe 152,214
Shimitae 161,0368 -> Shimitae moves
Julie A 150,3184
Julie B 155,9184
Julie C 158,7184
Round 9: After 9 Ticks
Chloe 171,2295
Julie A
162,8582Julie B
169,1582Julie C 172,3082 -> Julie C moves
This is where we stop. If you look at Julie A & B you can see that the enemy Chloe will move in between and interrupt your Combo (a 150 Spd Julie would not be fast enough). Julie C is barely out-speeding Chloe so you can pretty much say that your slowest monster needs to be at least 155 Speed.
This is how it´s done, the hard but definitely worth way 🙂 And once you have more experience this doesn’t take long to calculate. I advise you to do it like it´s shown in the Excel sheet.
Part 3: Speed-Tuning with Buffers
This is the important part if you choose option 2. Instead of showing you how to calculate it a third time, I´ll just give you the wanted data (I worked on these numbers a little for safety purposes): Also note that this data is just optimal for 4vs4 Arena! This will also work for 3vs3 GW of course but you could theoretically be slower.
Griffon (Wind) ★★★ – Bernard
Everybody higher than 75% of Bernards Overall Speed
Inferno (Water) ★★★ – Purian
Everybody higher than 71% of Purians Overall Speed
Mystic Witch (Water) ★★★ – Megan
Everybody higher than 89% of Megans Overall Speed (o.O You probably just want to take her in a Leo comp or with a 2nd Buffer)
Griffon (Wind) ★★★ – Bernard / Mystic Witch (Water) ★★★ – Megan
Everybody higher than 64% of Bernards Overall Speed; Megan higher than 74% of Bernards Overall Speed (Assuming Bernard faster than Megan)
Brownie Magician (Water) ★★★★ – Orion / Harpy (Light) ★★★ – Kabilla / Polar Queen (Wind) ★★★★★ – Tiana
Everybody higher than 83% of Orions/Kabillas/Tianas Overall Speed
Brownie Magician (Water) ★★★★ – Orion / Mystic Witch (Water) ★★★ – Megan
Everybody higher than 71% of Orions Overall Speed; Megan higher than 77% of Orions Overall Speed (Assuming Orion faster than Megan)
Griffon (Wind) ★★★ – Bernard / Vampire (Fire) ★★★★ – Verdehile
Everybody faster than53% of Bernards Overall Speed; Verde faster than 74% of Bernards Overall Speed (Assuming Bernard faster than Verde)
Brownie Magician (Water) ★★★★ – Orion / Vampire (Fire) ★★★★ – Verdehile
Everybody higher than 59% of Orions Overall Speed; Verde higher than 77% of Orions Overall Speed (Assuming Orion faster than Verde)
Griffon (Wind) ★★★ – Bernard / Brownie Magician (Water) ★★★★ – Orion
Everybody higher than 59% of Bernards Overall Speed; Orion higher than 74% of Bernards Overall Speed
Harpy (Light) ★★★ – Kabilla / Pirate Captain (Dark) ★★★★ – Frigate
Everybody higher than 53% of Kabillas Overall Speed; Frigate higher than 77% of Kabillas Overall Speed
These stats are a bit overkill to make 100% sure nobody will move in between. Why overkill? Because I was assuming the worst case scenario: your buffers speed = fastest enemies speed (won´t happen often).
Hope this helps 🙂
Peace,
Aurinko
If you happen to build your AO/AD based on this and detect a mistake, please do me a favour and record it for me. The video should include your tower building, your monsters stats and the arena fight right after (All in one video)
edit.: This guide got updated on 11.12.2015 – You may want to reread it. Special thanks to /u/n1ghth0und, /u/fivestarx and/u/ph34rb0t for disproving me with examples and contributing towards solutions for possible mistakes. Also special thanks to /u/pag280233 for doing researches on the correct amout of tick (7%). I hope this guide will now be correct and complete.