Why Chasun is overpowered and requires rebalancing

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TL;DR: Chasun is overpowered and require rebalancing. Here, I addressed her fundamental design problems, Chasun in comparison with other healers, common arguments why she is ‘balanced’, common tactics to defeat her and how disproportionate they are, and the 3 traits that I think is the reason why she is overpowered.

why chasun is op summoners war


Chasun is overpowered and requires rebalancing. Vio proc is only half of the problem, the other half is her fundamental design.

amuse sky dancer chasunSkill 2-Amuse: 20% heal based on her hp and buffs attack at 4-turn cd (max 25% heal and 3cd). Heals based on her hp, which considering she has huge base hp (more than Ahman or Ramagos, about the same with Arnold) and the most common way to rune her (all hp% with spd hp hp second), means it heals for a lot. Unlike Ariel or Belladeon’s heal, the recipient’s hp is moot as more often than not she would heal more based on her own hp than recipient’s hp. It also comes with an attack buff, which makes leaving Chasun alive until last dangerous, as in the meantime her teammates will hit you with boosted damage. To top it off, while the Atk Buff can be considered an equivalent for Belladeon’s AtB increase, Chasun has shorter cooldown.

fallen blossoms sky dancer chasunSkill 3-Fallen Blossom: 5-turn cd (max 4cd) A unique skill, useless when alone, powerful heal and AtB increaser anywhere else that also ignores Recovery Block effects. While in theory it has weaknesses, in practice it is more often than not a full heal that also increases AtB, all while having shorter cooldown than Lumirecia’s full heal. As well, its AtB copying effect can often give Chasun a near-full AtB, gaining her an extra non-violent turn, effectively further reducing its cooldown.

With her skills, Chasun has a heal for every patient. Amuse for those with low hp (which can easily heal them for more than 70% of their hp), Fallen Blossom for tanky ones (assuming she’s not damaged herself, but even then her Amuse heals even tanky ones significantly). In contrast, Belladeon and Ariel’s heals are recipient’s hp-based, meaning they would have more trouble healing those with low hp.

One of the biggest reason Chasun is overpowered is her 2 heals with short cooldowns. Amuse has a 4-turn cooldown while Fallen Blossom has a 5-turn cooldown, which could be improved to 3 and 4 turns respectively. This gives you a very short window to nuke her down which gets even shorter when her skills are fully upgraded and she’s on Nemesis, and if her Vio procs, you’re back to square 1. And even if Vio doesn’t proc, you have a 2-turn window to nuke her before she alternates using Amuse and Fallen Blossom.


AhmanAhman (Light Bearman): 12% group heal based on his max hp everytime he crits. On paper, he would heal more than Chasun. In practice, most Ahmans would sacrifice slot 4 for Crit Rate, meaning he would have much less hp compared to Chasun, and while Ahman does heal for more per turn compared to Amuse, at max upgrade Amuse comes very close to Ahman’s healing, and that’s before putting her Atk buff and Fallen Blossom into the equation.

anavelAnavel (Water Occult Girl): Group heal based on Atk that also Cleanses at 4cd (max 130% heal at 3cd). Also comes with crowd control and AoE def break, giving her great utility. Fortunately, her skills require Atk and Hp to gain maximum benefit from, thus making her much less durable.


arielAriel (Water Archangel): and 30% group heal +45% over 3 turns at 6cd (max 36% +45% over 3 turns at 5cd). Powerful single heal and group heal, one of the handful of monsters with 2 heals. Fortunately, he doesn’t make the enemy team more dangerous with his heals and his group heal takes a few turns to reach maximum value, although if you’re unlucky he might dispel some of your more important buffs.


BelladeonBelladeon (Light Inugami): 30% group heal at 5cd (max 36% at 4cd). Such great utility for an easily farmed monster. Less meat (hp) but more stringy (def). His Def break is arguably inferior to Atk buff as it relies on the enemy not resisting it and the prevalence of Immunity and Cleansers. At the very least, he could only heal once every 4 turns at best.


chloeChloe (Fire Epikion Priest): 50% heal at 5cd (max 3cd) 25% and 15% heal at lowest hp ally at 4cd (max 32% and 20% at 3cd). Another Arena staple. Protects your team with her Invincibilty and Immunity, but not as good at keeping them healed. Higher base hp than Chasun, but since most Chloe stacks Spd on Swift, in practice she’s much less durable.


eladrielEladriel (Wind Archangel): 50% heal at 5cd (max 3cd) and Resurrection at 8cd (max 6cd). Makes a great partner to Chasun, which makes her tankier and heals for more, and could raise her back if she dies. Still, his Resurrection comes at a pretty hefty cost, and could make him open to finishing blows.


lumireciaLumirecia (Water Sylphid): Full heal at 6cd (max 5cd). Comes with a ‘true’ full heal compared to Chasun’s Fallen Blossom. On one side, it doesn’t need any teammate to be usable. On the other hand, it’s subject to heal block and has longer cooldown.



prahaPraha (Water Oracle): 50% group heal at 6cd (max 60% at 4cd). Comes with a powerful AoE dispel, and her heal is one of the most powerful group heal in the game as it heals instantly (compared to Ariel’s heal over time). Same base hp with Chasun and higher defense. Fortunately, 4cd is sufficient time to nuke her down, and her having to Sleep (without Immunity or Cleanse) effectively adds a +1 cd.


RinaRina (Water Epikion Priest): I put her here because some says that ‘Chasun is the Rina of lategame’. She’s not. Rina faces the same problem as Chloe, her heal couldn’t be relied on as primary heal. Unlike Chloe, that’s all there is to her, she can be SAFELY ignored until all her teammates are down, she doesn’t add anything to the team aside from her mediocre heals and perhaps some poke with her first skill.

*Ad hominem arguments:

  1. You’re just jealous because you don’t have Chasun: I don’t have Ariel, Praha, Anavel, etc either, but I don’t see the need to rebalance any of them as of current.
  2. You’re whining because you can’t beat Chasun: I’ve beaten Chasun, I’ve used superior tactics, leaving her for last, one-hit nuke, and debuffs. But as I’ve said before, the problem is how it requires disproportionate effort. My arguments are on her fundamental designs and in comparison with other healers.


1. She can’t do anything but heal, she has no shield/immunity/invincibility: A common fallacy some of us would call Fake Balance. To quote, “If a character has a move set with a few overly powerful moves, the counterbalance to this may be to have several moves be near-useless. But the existence of bad moves does nothing to reduce the effectiveness of the good ones. A skilled player is likely to exploit the good moves while ignoring the useless ones” Chasun may not have shield/immunity/invincibility, but she heals exceedingly well; too good for her paygrade in fact, if not the best healer currently. And she DOES something else other than heal, she buffs atk (exceedingly dangerous if the battle goes long enough) and increases AtB (not everytime, but often).

2. Chasun is useless on c3+: Just because she’s food at higher level doesn’t necessarily mean she’s balanced in the first place. Just because you have a 1000% c.dmg monster that can one-shot Briand doesn’t justify the statement “Briand so squishy because *I* can one-shot him”. Again, I bring attention to the problems with her base design, especially in comparison with other healers.


1. Superior tactics: Again, the problem is how disproportionate it is in effort. You have to hit her teammates lightly to bait her heals first (especially FB), then when her heal is on cooldown, unload the pain. In the meantime, your buffs will expire, her teammates will counterattack, her atk buff will only increase her teammates’ damage, and if her Vio rune procs, you’re back to square one, and there’s no guarantee you can weather her teammates’ atk-boosted damage.

2. Leaving Chasun for last: Subset of ‘Superior tactic’ I mentioned above, and sometimes it is necessary, but the problem is that leaving Chasun for last means she can keep buffing her teammates’ attack, which can be exceedingly dangerous. In many ways, she is a priority target that needs to be killed immediately, yet she’s so tanky it takes disproportionate effort to take her down.

3. Single target one-hit nuke: I’ve seen videos of high-end Kahli one-shotting Chasun. But again, it’s the disproportionate effort required to take Chasun down. If you can kill a 40k base hp Chasun in one shot, you most likely can one-shot almost anything else in the game. When you have a one-hit kill in your arsenal everything looks easy, and when a suggested tactic to deal with a monster is a one-hit kill, then there’s a problem with that monster.

4. Heavy AoE: You need to deal at least 25% of her hp (which can easily reach 40k just from base + runes, before towers and other buffs). Given how aoes tend to have less damage than single target nuke, Lushen is perhaps the most viable (indeed this argument often comes from Lushen user, some even use 2 Lushens), but not everyone can afford a Lushen. Again, see my argument above on using massive damage as the final solution.

5. Skill cooldown: Monsters with skill cd reset is not very common in the first place; in fact none are farmable. And she has very short cd anyway, a few turns later and her skills will be ready to use again, and that’s not counting Vio procs.

6. Debuffs (Stuns, Silence etc): Feasible, but Immunity is staple in arenas, non-stun debuffs may not be feasible if Veromos is present, and Chasun is often built with resistance anyway (not to mention her 40% base resist). You have to sneak the debuff between Immunity lapse and Cleanses, which can be tricky due to resists and Vio procs.


chasun cosplayI believe that the biggest problem with Chasun is how these 3 traits of her synergizes so well, they necessitate a specialized tactic to deal with, which can be frustrating depending on her teammates and Vio procs:

1. Tanky due to huge base hp and how most players rune her hp hp hp with spd hp hp coming second, and with a group heal based on her massive hp which also buffs attack.
2. Having 2 powerful heals, thus giving a very small window of opportunity to neutralize her.
3. Very short cooldown compared to other healers, which synergizes so well with Violent runes.

Therefore, I believe that working around these 3 traits of her or eliminating one out of the 3 I’ve listed would be the best approach to balance her.

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  • Jenny

    I agree Chasun is Overpowered. I have a very hard time killing her and if she is paired with a tank it is almost impossible for me to take them both down. She needs a huge nerf.

  • Bob

    Oh no not a monster that is tough to deal with! I know! I’ll bitch about it on the internet. That’ll help.

  • Person

    It really depends on where you are in the game. If you nerfed her any more then she wouldn’t be a viable healer in end game. Currently, if I only require one healer/support on my AD, I’d choose bella over her, since she doesn’t provide armor break and she doesn’t remove buffs.

    And did you seriously just compare chasun to Chloe and say pointed out that fanatic “Protects your team with her Invincibilty and Immunity, but not as good at keeping them healed”? Try a double lushen team with a chasun instead of a chloe and see how that goes. A fast chloe can help you in many situations that a healer like chasun cannot, you wouldn’t be able to fight any speed teams with a simple tyron lead with no immunity.

    It’s similar to Rina in early game, I wouldn’t be surprised if an early game player writes an article about how a rina is extremely overpowered because they can’t even kill a 6 star rina on AD with their entire team.

    When you’re in conq 2 or higher, chasuns will be easy peasy.

    Your number 1 point is a bit off, chasun will most likely use 2nd skill even when everyone’s at full hp. Should attack their squishy so chasun uses fallen instead of second skill when it’s her turn to go.

    Point 3, if she has 40k hp and in fighter3/c1/c2, she’s probably a slowpoke with low resist, so there’s really nothing to worry about.

    For anyone that has and wants to build one, stats to aim for are 40k hp (35k is viable if you can achieve other two stats), 150+ speed, near 100% resist.

    • Beathem

      Thank you very much for your feedback, it is very useful.
      I will modify the guide with some of your comments cause I think you are right!! Thanks to people like you we keep with the good work!

  • fedora tipper

    “I’ve beaten Chasun, I’ve used superior tactics, leaving her for last, one-hit nuke, and debuffs”

    Top kek superios tactic my ass, even my 9 year old little brother can figure that out.
    U just mad cause u have no chasun.
    Cry more noob

  • MK

    you can put her to sleep with Elucia and take care of her teammates.

    • Ocene

      Well, one– Elucia has elemental disadvantage against Chasun and generally won’t be worth being built up to “that level” as she doesn’t have very many noteworthy skills, two: Chasun’s resistance increases by 25% when she is awakened and many high-level players tend to keep her resistance high, and three: Even if you do somehow manage to have Elucia put Chasun to sleep, many teams have cleansers and will easily take that debuff off. Elucia’s not even that great anyways.

  • Lars

    I enjoyed reading your article, and I agree with you. She can be an absolute pain, and Chasun (along with Verdehile) can turn the tide of battle, especially if those pesky violent runes keep processing. Late game she isn’t too bad, but again that all depends on how lucky the a.i. is for whatever war/battle you are fighting in.

    While Chasun isn’t usually part of my arena/war attack team, you can bet that a few of my defensive victories can be attributed to her. Yes I have her, yes I use her, and yes I do believe she needs to be scaled back.

  • I use Vio + Energy on my chasun..

    well, i think chasun was nerfed enough.

    ah, sorry for my English.

    i just wanna say i have chasun and i happy with her

  • Geist

    Verde is overpowered…
    Theomars is overpowered…
    Veromos is overpowered…
    same conclusion…
    But a game needs such heavy overpowered units, to get some fun in the game…
    It require more cerebal matter to kill a team with chasun and if you can make it, you will feel great.

    This game depends on runes not on monsters…

    • Mike

      As far as Verde, any problem is with violent, not his passive. Theo and Vero are definitely not overpowered.

      In PvE you can get by with runes over mons to a point, but in PvP you need both. Try making an AO and AD with farmable/fusible mons only and see how far you get compared to how far you normally get.